
In this Voices of Compassion episode CHC experts, Melanie Hsu, PhD, Clinical Director and licensed psychologist and Marjan Ebadi, PhD, licensed psychologist, join us to explore the experience of neurodivergent individuals navigating a world designed for neurotypical minds.
Listen this important conversation about building a more inclusive world that values all types of minds.
Episode overview
In this conversation, we talk about challenging the traditional deficit model that focuses on “fixing” neurodivergent traits, instead embracing a strengths-based approach that celebrates the unique abilities and perspectives that neurodiversity brings. We also discuss the emotional toll of masking—the exhausting practice of hiding natural behaviors to fit in—and share insights on recognizing when loved ones might be suppressing their authentic selves.


How to Listen and Subscribe
All Voices of Compassion podcast episodes are available on-demand to stream or download. Listen to Being Neurodiverse in a Neurotypical World at podcasts.chconline.org. You can also subscribe to Voices of Compassion on Apple podcasts, Spotify and other podcast apps.
About Voices of Compassion
Voices of Compassion is a weekly podcast produced by Children’s Health Council (CHC) with insights, inspiration and creative conversations about mental health, education and family.


Meet The CHC Expert
Melanie Hsu, PhD , Dr. Melanie Hsu, PhD, is the Clinical Director with expertise in working with children and families, particularly those with Autism Spectrum Disorder and developmental disabilities. She earned her PhD in Clinical Psychology from the Pacific Graduate School of Psychology and completed her postdoctoral residency at Kaiser Permanente’s Autism Spectrum Disorder Center. Dr. Hsu also serves as the clinical lead for several autism research studies at Kaiser Permanente. Fluent in Mandarin, she is passionate about supporting families through diagnosis and intervention.


Meet The CHC Expert
Marjan Ebadi, PhD , Dr. Marjan Ebadi, PhD, is a licensed psychologist specializing in child and family therapy, with expertise in treating autism spectrum disorder, ADHD, anxiety, depression, and trauma. She has extensive training in DBT, CBT, and PCIT. Dr. Ebadi earned her PhD in Clinical Psychology from Alliant International University and has worked in various settings, including schools and community mental health. She is fluent in Farsi.